In an interview, Ghassan Touma, former head of the
security apparatus of the now-disbanded Lebanese Forces
and second-in-command in the organization, affirmed
his reasons for stating that the trials of the former
head of the LF, Samir Geagea, were show trials from
first to last. Geagea was tried and sentenced for involvement
in the murder of Dany Chamoun and members of his family
in 1990, and in the murder of Elias Zayek, a member
of the LF. He has also been tried in the case of the
bombing of a church in Zouk Mekayel, for which a verdict
is expected on July 13. Touma was accused of involvement
in three cases: an attempt on the life of Michel Murr,
now minister of the Interior; the bombing of the Greek
Catholic bishopric in Zahle; and the assassination of
Zayek. The conversation was conducted in a café located
in a suburb of Oklahoma City in the United States. Here
is a translation of the interview:
On May 20 of this year Samir Geagea, Tony Obeid
and yourself were sentenced to death for the murder
of Dr. Elias Zayek, a sentence which was subsequently
commuted to life imprisonment. What is your comment
on the court’s verdict of guilty and its sentences of
death, in view of the fact that the court whichpronounced
them was not the same tribunal which issued verdict
and sentence in the case of the murder of Dany Chamoun
and his family?
Until now, all decisions taken by the authorities against
the Lebanese Forces, its officials and members, have
been taken with the objective of taking revenge for
political reasons.They have nothing to do with the principle
of due process of law adhered to in democratic nations.
That is why we and many others consider them null.
You have stated before that the murder of Dr. Zayek
took place because of the «Captagone» [a prohibited
medical substance in which Zayek and others were alleged
to be trafficking: ed]. How do you reply to the statement
by Rafik Saade to the intelligence service and the investigating
magistrate, later reiterating his statement in court,
that you had instigated the murder?
I assure you that the Lebanese Forces had nothing to
do with the case of Zayek. After I had spoken previously
about some information we had got concerning the Captagone
and the involvement of some officials and the Kataeb
Party in this matter, the «ghosts» intervened to conceal
essential information in such a way that it would be
possible for the political trials to take the course
which had from the beginning been traced out for them
with the object of condemning Samir Geagea and the Lebanese
Forces, and to do so at any price and by any means.
I should mention at this point that someone received
from Zayek the sum of 25,000 dollars by the intermediary
of someone whose name I shall not divulge. Zayek’s associates
accused him of pocketing a large part of the money obtained
from transactions in Captagone, something which led
to a serious disagreement between him and them, during
which Zayek threatened to make the whole matter public,
so that his accusers would — despite the importance
of some of them — be implicated in the crime along with
him. If he went down, he told them, he would take them
with him. I apologize to the Zayek family for having
to mention this information concerning someone dear
to them who is now deceased, but my duty is to tell
the truth no matter how hard it is on some people. As
to Rafik Saade, he is miserable and I feel sorry for
him. But I understand how, after having endured pressures
and torture, he agreed to play the game of the promoters
of loans and transactions. He was hoping, and still
is, to be released sooner or later, even though his
testimony would mean an unjust condemnation of the Lebanese
Forces and of Samir Geagea.
In Zayek’s file are some depositions by André Obeid
stating that you yourself asked him personally to watch
Zayek and finish him off because he had “deviated from
the line”. What is your answer, especially in view of
the fact that André Obeid is still in the country and
has not been pressured? He gave his testimony in an
atmosphere of normality. Why were they able to obtain
such statements from Obeid and from Rafik Saade?
André Obeid lied. He is not in Lebanon; he left some
time ago and won’t be back. An influential friend of
his constrained him to give himself up. When he had
done so, he signed a legal statement drawn up in advance,
in return for signing which he would be released. And
so it happened. The relationship between him and this
influential person went back to the beginning of 1995,
when this person, on an official visit to Paris, spent
the night at Obeid’s apartment there, and they spent
evenings together. Subsequently, the wife of the influential
person joined him in Paris and was in touch with André,
who provided transport around Paris for her.
During the trial of the Zayek case, mention was made
of a person called Raymond Gerges, who is wanted by
the judicial authorities. Do you know this person, and
can you say why he doesn’t appear to confirm or deny,
since he is the person accused of opening fire on Zayek?
Yes, I do know Raymond Gerges, and I also know many
other members of the LF who could be listed in this
dossier as well as that of Gerges. I know that more
than 1,500 young men of the Lebanese Forces have left
Lebanon, accompanied by their families over the last
few years, either after having been arrested and tortured,
or to escape such treatment, Raymond Gerges being one
of them. I don’t think that anyone expects them to come
back and submit themselves to the hangman, or to put
themselves in a position where they are forced to sign
false statements and betray their principles. The police
techniques used by certain agencies against members
of the Lebanese Forces are now well known to international
instances, and the most important international human
rights organizations have denounced and condemned the
practices of security agencies and other bodies. For
three years — 1994, 1995 and 1996 — the US State Department
published scores of pages about Lebanon describing violations
committed by certain services such as issuing blank
warrants which had been signed and which were to be
“filled in” later as the need arose; such as the way
in which persons were detained and tortured; such as
the political and security pressure exerted on official
institutions; and in the repression of political freedom.
In earlier statements made by you, and in the context
of the attempt to assassinate Michel Murr, now deputy
premier and minister of the Interior, you said that
a person once advised you to leave the country, which
you then did. Why, in your opinion, didn’t Samir Geagea
leave like other LF officials such as Joseph Rizk, Raji
Abdo, Akram, Ghassan Menassa, yourself... Didn’t Samir
Geagea get the same message? Or didn’t he think the
message was directed to himself personally?
Let’s recall what happened in 1991 and 1992. There
were a number of tempting offers made to induce the
Lebanese Forces to take part in the Administration in
order to ensure that it had a Christian “cover” — that
was the objective of these offers —, and to make possible
a dilution of the Taef Agreement by applying faulty
political practices which went against the aspirations
of the people. Following failure of the attempts to
draw the Lebanese Forces into the circle of power, and
the repeated LF rejection of official offers which would
perhaps have ensured the security of the Forces’ institutions
in material terms but only at the price of betraying
the principles of their long struggle and the blood
of their martyrs — following this, the authorities decided
to use the tactic of the stick. They proceeded to carry
out the assassination of Suleiman Akiki and Nadim Abdennour
and to perpetrate unjustified attacks on members of
the LF. Despite all this, Dr. Geagea continued to confront
the pressures by means of political contacts in a democratic
way, even when LF officials began to be watched, to
be abused at checkpoints, and to be the objects of slanderous
allegations in the media. They even began getting threatening
letters “advising” them they had the choice of either
leaving the country or being thrown in prison. The message
intended by these letters was clear: they wanted to
deprive Dr. Geagea of all his colleagues to make him
submit and surrender. So we left, hoping that our departure
would cause an easing of the pressures on him. Everyone
knows what happened subsequently, beginning with the
attack on our headquarters in the Karantina and ending
with the pressures exerted to prevent Dr. Geagea from
acceding to the presidency of the Kataeb Party by democratic
means during party elections. And for the record, some
of us returned to Lebanon intending to stay for good.
But the pressures on us began again, to the point where
we were prevented, in the summer of 1993, from returning
definitively (the dates of the entries and departures
stamped in our passports prove this). After this, there
was the explosion in the Kataeb headquarters in Saifi
at the end of 1993, which they tried, by means of some
of those they arrested, to blame the LF. This didn’t
work, however. Then there was the attack on the church
of Our Lady of the Deliverance at Zouk in February,
1994, following which they fabricated the story that
everyone now knows to reach the political objectives
they had set for themselves. After the bombing came
the encirclement by troops of the LF headquarters at
Ghodress, and a threat to hang the Doctor unless he
agreed to leave the country. But he refused to go into
exile, preferring prison and even the gallows to dishonoring
his cause and betraying his martyred comrades.
On July 13 we expect delivery of the verdict on the
Zouk case which led to the arrest of Samir Geagea and
his comrades, the dissolution of the LF, and the opening
of other dossiers. What do you have to say on this subject,
in view of the fact that those accused of carrying out
the bombing were members of the LF security apparatus
directed by you?
I have something to say about the indictments and the
verdicts — which are in general mere copies of the indictments
—, whose forms throw light on the intentions of the
authorities. In each one of them, we find preambles
and other passages having a political color whose sole
purpose is to justify the issuing of these indictments
by covering up the facts, the evidence, and the pleading
of the defense. We note also the weakness of the prosecution’s
arguments, especially that adduced on the pretended
cooperation with the Israeli enemy. The Forces were
accused of wanting to sabotage the Taef Agreement, while
everyone knows it was they who made it possible for
the accord to come into existence in order to end the
war and enter the era of «civil peace» which they are
themselves praising today. They also accused the Forces
of working for the partition of the country, while everyone
knows that what the LF advocated was federalism, and
that it was on the basis of this concept that the State
gave the Forces the right to take part in political
life. Anyone who knows anything about the law is well
aware of the difference between partition and federalism.
They have heard the Declaration of the Synod for Lebanon
[held at the Vatican last year] and its resolutions
in regard to the cultural and civilizational pluralism
which is one of the bases of federalism. In addition,
I want to cite certain errors and contradictions in
the charge made by the public prosecutor, Adnan Addoum.
He claimed that Geagea had hidden the material for the
explosion in certain places, and queried him why he
had told Gerges Khouri to bring the explosive material
— which in the result he never brought — from Israel
for the purpose of blowing up the church. On another
occasion the prosecutor spoke of a visit to Lebanon
by the pope, and of the party whose interests would
be harmed by such a visit — an allusion to Dr. Geagea
the point of which we didn’t understand. Then at another
point in the trial, he didn’t appreciate the deposition
made by Father Michel Oweit because it was not in keeping
with what he wanted. I just want to say this: Everybody
knows that the Christians would not be inconvenienced
or annoyed by a papal visit. On the contrary, they were
suffering from great frustration and ardently hoped
for a visit by the Holy Father. In re-reading the statements
made at that period, we easily understand who it was
that would have been inconvenienced by such a visit.
In regard to Gerges Khouri, the arrest of his mother
and sister, the prosecutor — a veteran lawyer — used
the word “detention”. This signified that he was stating,
unconsciously, that the detentions had taken place,
which was contrary to what he stated about other cases.
The word “detention” simply means depriving someone
of freedom without legal warrant. Everyone remembers
that Gerges Khouri refused to be defended by an attorney
before the indictment was pronounced, and that afterwards
he asked for a defense attorney as soon as the indictment
was given. The reason is clear: they had promised not
to prosecute him, and they did not keep the promise.
That was when a serious mistake was made by those who
supervised the investigations and directed the business.
Gerges was initially not to have been prosecuted; instead,
he was to have testified as a witness for the prosecution,
as did many of those implicated in the case of Dany
Chamoun’s murder. If this scenario had gone ahead, Khouri
would have accepted to maintain his first deposition
and to have incriminated the LF in the crime. But the
fact that the director of the play incriminated Khouri
in the indictment caused the latter to go back on his
deposition and speak the truth, after having lost confidence
in those who “made proposals”. The prosecutor also insisted
on speaking of meetings held at LF headquarters, while
those responsible for security at the building, as well
as its occupants, stated in the clearest way that they
had never even once seen the accused inside the building.
They also stated that the names of those who did enter
were written in a special register kept at the entrance,
and this register was confiscated. Naturally, if the
name of any one of the accused had been found there,
the register would have been placed before the court.
Further, documents were presented to the court attesting
that Tony Obeid had left for Australia, with the date
of his arrival in that country and the length of his
stay being registered, as well as the dates on which
he visited doctors offices and public buildings. Rushdi
Raad and Jean Shahin, who were in Canada and Australia,
respectively, presented similar attestations. If the
Lebanese authorities had wanted to know the truth, they
would have coordinated their action with the Canadian
and Australian authorities in order to know the names
of those arriving in and departing from Lebanon in the
period preceding the attack on the church. But it was
not so much the truth that was sought as the head of
Samir Geagea and the LF, which they were determined
to have in any way possible.
The Malek Affair
In addition, there are details relative
to the Fuad Malek affair, his confrontation with his
lawyers and his son, and his retraction after his first
deposition to tell the truth. Nor must we forget Gerges
Khouri and his denial of his first deposition and his
rejection of the intervention of influential persons
like Frayha and Oweidat. And even a child could criticize
the logic of suspecting that those accused in this matter
could have given an important role in it to a person
who would end up by giving testimony against them. What
kind of logic can this be? Thus, it is obvious that
all the arrests, investigations, interrogations and
pleadings had the purpose of doing the following:
a) Proving that Samir Geagea was the all-powerful master
of the Lebanese Forces.
b) Taking from the witnesses’ testimony and the other
evidence what suited their needs and ignoring anything
that didn’t suit their purpose — and not forgetting
the statements extracted by threats.
c) Demonstrating that the accused were members of the
LF security apparatus, and proving that they had received
their orders from me, either directly or through the
chain of command. d) The Doctor being the “absolute
master”, all orders would have come from him through
me; it would then be possible to try and convict him.
Geagea Above Suspicion
Even supposing that confessions
are extracted from suspects even in the best-maintained
Swiss prisons, it is apparent that:
1) Tony Obeid’s testimony was not given in a logical
sequence (I apologize to Tony for saying this, since
I know he’s innocent).
2) None of the suspects received any order or instructions
from me.
3) None of the suspects received any order or instruction
from Dr. Geagea. This invalidates — twice and on two
levels — any suspicion as to the possibility of Samir
Geagea having any role in the matter. The file — even
if we suppose the facts and data are true — does not
lead to the conclusion that I, Ghassan Touma, am in
any way implicated as the direct superior of Tony Obeid.
But I don’t know how can a jurist with the least amount
of logic, not to say experience, allow himself to jump
from the testimony of a witness, no matter how it was
taken, to an accusation of Dr. Geagea, forgetting about
the third element (Tony and his testimony) and the absence
of the second element (Ghassan Touma and his testimony)
only to attain the first element? In spite of all this,
and for known political reasons and under various pressures,
there was a flagrant disregard of facts, evidence, the
statements of a large number of witnesses, and the logic
of the defense.
Appeal to the Pope and the Maronite Bishops
Your name wasn’t mentioned in the case of the church
explosion. What was the reason? Surely, if there had
been any attempt at a frameup, your name would have
been included like the others, e.g. Tony Obeid and Rushdi
Raad. This is an especially reasonable assumption in
view of the fact that the same examining magistrates
worked on the cases of the church bombing, Zayek, Dany
Chamoun and Michel Murr. How do you explain the fact
that your name is not in all the dossiers?
I will not repeat what I’ve said and will not elaborate
in explaining the testimonies, pleadings, meetings,
and media comments. But I would like, before the sentence
is pronounced on the matter of the church (which has
led to the opening of new dossiers), to appeal to:
a) The conscience of the judges who are trying a case
which concerns all the Lebanese.
b) Cardinal-Patriarch Nasrallah Sfeir and the Assembly
of Maronite Bishops, who are directly concerned in the
matter of the church explosion, to ask that the justice
be done to members of their religion.
c) The pope and those responsible for the Christian
matters in Lebanon after they announced their position
through the communiqué of the Synod, and in view of
the fact that an event like the bombing is one with
which they especially should be concerned. I say the
following:
1) Any one following up the trials can easily conclude
that I, Ghassan Touma, am the key personality in any
attempt to convict Samir Geagea or prove his innocence.
Ghassan Touma is supposed to be the link between the
one who gave the orders and the ones who carried them
out.
2) All neutral observers, inside and outside Lebanon,
have affirmed that all defendants who confessed their
involvement in all crimes alleged to have been committed
by the LF were framed just because they were members
of the LF’s Security Agency. Some were forced to make
confessions prepared by interrogators and others were
bribed to do so.
3) The US State Department and many other international
organizations have affirmed many times that freedoms
in Lebanon are being oppressed, arrests are made haphazardly,
and political interference and torture during investigations
are frequent. Some persons held in custody have died
of torture.
4) Decision-makers in Lebanon have decided to use LF
trials for political ends; thus, legal procedures in
the trials were neglected and the testimony favorable
to the defendants was ignored.
5) We have full trust in Pope John Paul II and urge
him to send a delegate to Lebanon to discuss with the
Lebanese authorities the formation of a special committee
that includes representatives of the Holy See, the Lebanese
judiciary and the Maronite Patriarchate. If this is
done, I will turn myself in to the Lebanese authorities.
My conditions are:
a) This committee must make sure the prisons where
I and my comrades, the other defendants, are held will
be suitable.
b) There should be a new inquiry, carried out in the
presence of a representative of the Holy See, into the
crimes imputed to the Lebanese Forces. This inquiry
should take place in the absence of any non-judicial
person, in view of the importance of preventing any
of the inhuman practices which accompanied the previous
inquiries.
c) All witnesses, defense attorneys and defendants
should be given a free atmosphere to say what they like,
present the documents they want, and invite the persons
they want from abroad to prove their innocence.
d) Once the LF and Samir Geagea are proved to be innocent,
all LF members should be released and the LF party should
be given the right to free political activity. The real
culprits, irrespective of their nationality or orientation,
should be prosecuted.
Georges Sader, Oklahoma City, June 30,
1996